The
Fivepenny Piece FAQ
This
page lists many of the most frequently asked questions
(FAQs) about The Fivepenny Piece. If you have
any questions, please look here first - there's a
good chance your question may be answered here. If
not, then you can contact us.
Here's
a list of the questions answered on this page:

The
Fivepenny Piece are a five-piece band formed originally
in 1967 in Stalybridge in northern England
- all members of the band were from Stalybridge or
nearby Ashton-under-Lyne in Lancashire.
Originally called The Wednesday Folk, they
used to meet up at Ashton's Broadoak Hotel
on Wednesday evenings to entertain the locals. This
is an early publicity photo of the band from January
1969 looking seriously folky! Click on the small
picture to see the full-size version.
The
original band members were:
- John
Meeks (guitar, vocals)
- Lynda
Meeks (vocals) - John's sister
- Eddie
Crotty (guitar, vocals)
- George
Radcliffe (bass, vocals)
- Colin
Radcliffe (guitar, vocals) - George's
brother
Colin
Radcliffe and John Meeks formed a prolific
songwriting partnership and penned many of the band's
songs, although the other members also contributed
material, notably Eddie Crotty's humorous Lancashire-style
songs.
The
band continued with the original line-up until 1981,
when John Meeks departed, to be replaced by Trevor
Chance. A year or two later Lynda left and was
replaced by Andrea Mullins (a former member
of The Caravelles). The band broke up in 1985,
but it was subsequently reformed and is still occasionally
gigging today. By 1996 the line up still included
Andrea, Eddie and George, with
the addition of Pete Brew and famous Lancashire
singer/actor/comedian Bernard Wrigley.
Sadly, George Radcliffe passed away in December 2002,
leaving Eddie as the only member of the original band
in the line-up. Even Eddie has had health problems
and for a while Norman Prince (formerly of
the Houghton Weavers) stood in for him at gigs.
The Fivepenny Piece continued to perform for a while
with the last recorded
line-up being Eddie Crotty, Andrea Mullins,
Alan Taylor, John Eatock and George's
replacement Paul Johnstone.
Although the other three original band members Colin,
Lynda and John had retired from the
music business; in 2004 came the great news that John
Meeks had returned to the studio and recorded
a new CD, with some old favourites from the Fivepenny
Piece days, plus some brand new songs.


A
difficult
one to answer, is this! The Fivepenny Piece are usually
categorised as "folk", but this is misleading,
as they rarely played true folk music - whatever that
is! They played mainly original material which covers
a broad spectrum of styles which makes them difficult
to pigeon-hole. The music ranges from what might be
described as 'pop-folk' (typified by The
Seekers), to Easy Listening/Pop, to 'Lancashire'
music - songs in the Lancashire idiom reflecting their
roots.
The
apparent simplicity of the songs and the accompaniment
is belied by the complexity of many of the lyrics
which are by turns meaningful (as in folk protest
songs); humorous (Lancashire humour, of course!);
surreal (occasionally verging on being nonsensical);
and romantic (love songs) - but even that doesn't
cover the full spectrum of their work. The variety
of material nearly always makes for interesting listening.
Particular strengths of the original band were the
Lancashire humour illustrated best by Eddie's
vocal contributions; the strong songwriting partnership
of John and Colin; Lynda's pleasantly
agreeable - oh, go on then - gorgeous voice; and George's
excellent bass playing at the heart of the rhythm
section - not to mention his lugubrious expression
and famous floppy hat! The excellent harmony singing
of the whole band on many of their songs should also
not be overlooked.
The current band has a multi-talented line-up and
features Andrea, Alan, John and
Eddie variously on vocals, with Alan on violin
and mandolin adding a bit of musical colour to the
guitar-based sound. As ever, the humour comes from
everyone in the band!


The
Fivepenny Piece are best known and remembered
in their home territory of Lancashire and nearby areas
of the North-West of England, but they were widely
known across the UK during their heyday in the 1970s,
thanks to their many TV appearances in those days.
Their big break came in 1968 when they won the popular
TV talent show New Faces, still under their
original name Wednesday Folk. As well as getting
a new name, they were signed up by the prestigious
Noel Gay agency and given a recording contract with
EMI records. Their public profile was enhanced by
a residency on Esther Rantzen's weekly BBC-TV
programme That's Life, which was watched
by huge numbers at its peak. They also had their own
BBC TV series, following one they shared with
fellow "Lanky" funny man and singer Mike
Harding. For more details of their TV appearances,
see the 5PP on TV page.
The
band may not be quite so well known these days, but
they have still got plenty of loyal fans all over
the world, who remember the Fivepenny Piece's music
and Lancashire humour with great affection.


The
Fivepenny Piece made more than a dozen albums
throughout the 1970s and early 1980s, as well as a
number of singles. Their first single was issued in
1969 on EMI's UK Columbia label. Their EMI records
were initially produced by Bob Barratt, who
seems to have specialised in regional acts - which
is what The Fivepenny Piece were - such as the West
Country's favourite sons The Wurzels. See the
Fivepenny Piece Discography
for a list of all their records, with full track listings,
release dates, etc.


The
Fivepenny Piece's chart career was brief - none
of their singles got into the national charts, but
they did make the Top Ten UK albums with their 1976
magnum opus King
Cotton, and the earlier 1973 album Makin'
Tracks made the top 40. However in the
early and mid-1970s their records sold in large enough
numbers to satisfy EMI, especially in their home area
of the North-West, where the locals were happy to
buy recordings of songs with titles like Stalybridge
Wakes, I'm Powfagged and
The Ashton Mashers.
Later
in the 1970s the group's popularity outside their
home area appears to have tailed off, and their EMI
contract is assumed to have not been renewed. The
band switched to Polygram where they had a couple
of albums released. Following the departure of Lynda
Meeks, the album Here
We Are Again was issued on a small
independent label. This consisted of some new songs,
some covers and reworkings of some of their previous
records, such as Big Jim.
One
much sought-after record Lanky
Spoken Here!, issued on EMI, featured
The Fivepenny Piece with other Lancashire artists
including Gary & Vera Aspey, Bernard
Wrigley and Bob Williamson. The record
was a Lancashire dialect tutorial, interpersed with
humorous songs. The 'Lanky' words and phrases
were 'translated' into English by the posh-voiced
former BBC newsreader Robert Dougall, among
others.


The
short answer is - yes, but not enough of them! Although
the band in their 1970s heyday made over a dozen albums
for EMI and Polygram (not including compilations),
only two compilation CD of this prodigious output
is available at present.
A significant
recording featuring the Fivepenny Piece and also available
on CD is the 1978 recording Lanky
Spoken Here! - a must for anyone learning
the Lancashire dialect!
The shameful lack of availability of the Fivepenny
Piece's material is something the band and their fans
are pledged to rectify - if you have any influence
over the record companies concerned, please try to
put pressure on them!
Meanwhile, it's not all gloom - we are pleased to
announce that founder member and leading composer
John Meeks has brought out a CD in 2004, with
new versions of some of the old songs, plus some brand
new ones. The CD is available exclusively from the
band at out online shop.


Is
the band properly known as "The Fivepenny
Piece" or just "Fivepenny Piece"?
The band's correct name has always been unclear -
other variants are "(The) Five Penny Piece"
(with "Five Penny" as two separate words)
or even "5 Penny Piece". Many people
have asked this question, as the confusion makes it
difficult when searching for information about the
band on the Internet.
This
hasn't been helped by the band themselves or the companies
issuing their records. Both Fivepenny Piece
and The Fivepenny Piece have been used by the
band members, and all of the variants above have been
used at different times on record covers or labels,
right from the very start. The demo version of the
band's first
single gave their name as Five Penny Piece
whereas the regular issue label showed Fivepenny
Piece. Then the group's first
album was titled The Fivepenny Piece, and
the four LPs following were credited to the same.
After that, the rest of their EMI albums reverted
to Fivepenny Piece. To sum it all up, the single
Save
Your Last Kiss For Me showed The Fivepenny
Piece on the sleeve, and just Fivepenny Piece
on the label. Confused? You should be!
So,
the answer is that either Fivepenny Piece or
The Fivepenny Piece is correct, but the other
variants are not. 5 Penny Piece was used as
a kind of logo for the band on the covers of three
of their albums issued in 1977-1978, which is probably
how this particular one started. However a glance
at the labels show that the band's proper name was
Fivepenny Piece - at least, it was at that
time! The name 5PP is simply an unofficial
shorthand for the band's name.


If
you know anything of interest about The Fivepenny
Piece, want to point out any errors in this website,
or simply want to 'e-natter' about the band, then
contact us. We are
particularly interested in knowing about any records
not listed in the Discography.